Friday, July 11, 2008

RE: To ABC

RE: To ABC

ABC said: �So you do agree that you belive certain things without proving it sciebtifically...Like your parents love you and care you...�

My Comment: Where does the belief part come in caring and loving? In this case I can see them and experience love and care physically.

ABC Said: �So you do belive that they are just your biological parents....and even if you want to prove that they are your parents you can prove that scientifically...but you don't want to know the truth...�

My Comment: Of course it can be scientifically proven. It is not I don�t care about the truth. No body bothers about it unless and until there is a doubt. If somebody raises a concern, they can always verify it through a DNA test. I am asking you again how you prove that Bible is the truth.

ABC Said: �I want to tell you the same....I know that Bible is true becs it guides me,direct me,care me...so I just want to belive it...�

My Comment: Let me be clear here. I am not questioning about your right to believe in Bible. You have every right to believe in anything. I respect your right. What I am questioning is the basis of your belief, in other words how did you know that there is a God and Bible is the truth.

ABC Said: �even if I want to prove it yes it can be proven...and that's waht many historians were doing it for so long.�

My Comment: Yes, that is what I am expecting from you. I will be more than happy if you prove it rather than using Red Herring. Please prove it objectively, meaning uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices (not subjectively, meaning proceeding from or taking place in a person's mind rather than the external world). Please provide some unbiased, reliable historians. Also tell us what did they prove and how?

ABC Said: �Again you belive that google and Wikipedia have the final words on interpretting each and everything....Lokks like you are in S/W industry....You have been guided by Wikipedia for each and evrything..and you belive that Wikipedia is true and authoritative for your definitions....

My Comment: I don�t think I ever said that. I gave the link of wikipedia to show you the source of my information. That way you can verify the validity of my statement, incase of any doubt. For your information, the logical fallacy I mentioned is not the product of Wikipedia/Google. You always can do your own independent research and that is the right way to know things.

By the way, your above comment is another fallacy called Straw Man argument. Quoting wikipedia again for your reference.

�A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw man argument" is to describe a position that superficially resembles an opponent's actual view but is easier to refute, then attribute that position to the opponent (for example, deliberately overstating the opponent's position). A straw man argument can be a successful rhetorical technique (that is, it may succeed in persuading people) but it carries little or no real evidential weight, because the opponent's actual argument has not been refuted�
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

ABC Said: �WHat I understand you belong to group of Edamaruku who he does not belive anything in this world world.....So no one can make you belive anything....�

My Comment: Argumentum ad hominem. �An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.�
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

ABC Said: �I donno how do you belive George Bush is the US president?

My Comment: Oh come on, please don�t make silly arguments. You can always verify who the president of US is. Go there and check it, in case of any doubts. Please don�t tell me this is the reason you believe in God and Bible.

ABC Said: �How do you belive there exists a prehistoric period?�

My Comment: I am sorry. I didn�t understand the question. What do you mean by a pre-historic period?

ABC Said: �How do you belive Dinosorus were existed?�

My Comment: Because there are fossil evidences and a reliable source like science has proven it.

ABC Said: �At least it's good that you belive that you have biological parents without proving it....�

My Comment: Ad hominem comment. No point at all.

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