Sunday, August 3, 2008

RE: കമ്മ്യൂണിസത്തെ അവഹേളിക്കുന്നവര്ക്ക്

RE: കമ്മ്യൂണിസത്തെ അവഹേളിക്കുന്നവര്ക്ക്

Naoushad,

Thanks for your reply. Now let me answer your post

Gundaism is the act of violating somebody�s right/freedom by threat or force.

In a free democratic society a person has full right and freedom on his private properties. As a citizen of democratic India, one has every right to decide who to unload his private properties from a vehicle. But communists say citizens do not have this right and it is the right of the unloading employees. Where is the logic in this? If one decides to use somebody else to unload, then they will force fully take money from the owner. Don�t you see violation of rights here? Don�t you see personal freedom and rights are threatened here? Any reasonable person can see this as the act of Gundaism. That is the reason I compared communism with gundaism.

Now you please explain me how I deserve the name gunda.

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You wrote: �By comparing the communist activities in Kerala and across the world you conclude that I don�t know about communism�
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What communist activities you are referring to? And what this has to do with taking away citizens� freedom and rights? All you are doing is repeatedly saying I don�t know about communism. You are not showing where I am wrong with a valid logical argument. Also you didn�t answer my questions in the previous post. Please answer my below questions.

1) Do I have the right and freedom to decide who to unload my properties from a vehicle?
2) Do the government and police protect my rights and freedom in case of any conflicts related to the above issue?
3) Do you respect my personal freedom and rights unconditionally?
4) Do you respect my freedom and rights on my private properties unconditionally?
5) Does a farmer have the freedom to use any machines in his fields without anybody�s permission?
6) Do you respect farmers� freedom to cultivate what ever he needs on his field?
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You wrote: �Yes, farmers have every right on their lands.�
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Your comment and communist actions are not matching. They are contradicting. If communists respect farmers� right and freedom on their lands how come they say farmers should only do cultivation on their lands (That too only some specific kinds of cultivation listed by them)?
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You wrote: �We should understand the peculiarities of our lands. It is like cultivating apple on desert or dates in Kottayam�
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You understand peculiarities of your land and do what ever you want to do on that. You have no right to say what I should do on my lands. So if I try to cultivate dates on my land, communist government has the right to take away my lands, uh? Is that what you mean? This is how you respect personal freedom and rights?
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You wrote: �We can see bloodshed behind the growth of every religion. Communism hasn�t done that much compared to that�
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Killings by religions do not excuse the killings by communism. Murder is murder irrespective of whether it is done by religion or communism. Don�t you think so?
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You wrote: �Communism means equality�
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Good philosophy which is nice to hear. This will work if you assume that everybody is of equal intelligence, efficiency and productivity. Unfortunately it is not. Are you ready to work more for some body else who is not efficient and productive as yours and share your money with him so that both of your money will be equal? If yes, then why should some body work hard?

As I said before nobody is saying that people should be ignored. Everybody should have equal opportunity and should be free to earn according to their abilities. Government should take care of needy people too without affecting others rights and freedom.
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You wrote: �According to Christianity god is the owner of the lands. Not all believers are owners of the land�
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Don�t mix religion with politics. I don�t know why you are using Christianity to my comments. As I said before I don�t belong to any religion. My concerns are democracy and freedom, not what Bible says.
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You wrote: �you mean un employment? why people of unemployee march against goverments all over world?�
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No, I never mentioned anything about unemployment. I am not sure what you are referring here.
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Reply to your comment#5.
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This one clearly shows you do not respect others personal rights and freedom. Tell me how your�s this comment and your previous comment �farmers have every right on their land� is compatible? So you think that a farmer doesn�t have the freedom to use his private land for anything else? If they do so then somebody else can take over it, uh?
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You wrote: �Nobody is against earning money, but you should treat your workers properly�
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How is your communist equality ideology and earning money compatible? You also said it is wrong to farmers use their lands for something else by looking for the profit. You are contradicting yourself.

If somebody is treating workers badly that is a different issue. It needs to be punished. In any democratic society nobody treats a worker badly. There are labor laws to prevent that. But what is the point you are trying to make here?
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You wrote: �We are living in a capitalistic society. We are the sons/daughters of god. I have 5 cents, you do not have, why?�
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Isn�t it funny that you are using god in your arguments. How can you argue using god for communism? I don�t understand that. As I said before leave god and religion alone.

We are not living in a fully capitalistic society. You can say partial. Is capitalism bad? What is wrong with capitalism?

If you have 5 cents and I do not have then I am not as capable as you. I am not doing enough productive work to the society as you to earn 5 cents.

But I do not understand the relation between capitalism, sons of god and 5 cents. I doubt whether you are clear on your ideas.
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